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Juche and Orbánism
Measured distance across six axes
Different families with real common ground. They agree within three points on CU, AU, ID, CH. They diverge by eight points or more on EC.
Axis by axis
| Axis | Kimilsungism | Fidesz | Gap | Reading | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| EC · Economic organisation | −10 | +04 | 14 | Diverges | Carries the disagreement. Any claim that these two are alike has to explain this. |
| CU · Social and cultural order | +09 | +08 | 1 | Agrees | Effectively the same position. Not what an argument between them is about. |
| AU · Organisation of power | +10 | +07 | 3 | Agrees | Effectively the same position. Not what an argument between them is about. |
| SC · Scale of decision | +10 | +06 | 4 | Differs | Real difference, but not the dividing line. |
| ID · Rule of membership | +10 | +07 | 3 | Agrees | Effectively the same position. Not what an argument between them is about. |
| CH · Method and tempo | −02 | −01 | 1 | Agrees | Effectively the same position. Not what an argument between them is about. |
Each axis runs from −10 to +10; the distance is the straight-line separation across all six at once, out of a maximum of 49.0. How the scoring works →
The evidence behind the widest gaps
A distance figure is worth nothing unless the scores behind it can be checked. These are the artefacts supporting the axes that separate these two most.
Kimilsungism · EC −10
At the floor. State ownership of everything, with unofficial markets tolerated because the ration system failed.
- ScholarshipThe public distribution system collapsed during the 1994–98 famine; jangmadang markets emerged and are now taxed rather than suppressed.
Fidesz · EC +04
Coded mildly market: a flat income tax alongside large family transfers and sectoral taxes on foreign firms.
- Documented act or statuteA fifteen percent flat personal income tax with income tax exemption for mothers of four or more children.
- Documented act or statuteSector-specific taxes applied principally to foreign-owned banking, retail and telecoms.
What this comparison does not establish
Proximity means similarity of stated position. It carries no claim about competence, circumstance, scale of operation, or what either organisation actually did to the people under it. Two organisations can sit close together and produce entirely different histories, because those things are not on any axis and could not be.
Juche
1955– · North Korea
National self-reliance under a hereditary leader treated as the source of all social life; military-first priority.
Orbánism
2010– · Hungary
Explicitly 'illiberal democracy': majority rule unconstrained by liberal checks, Christian national identity, opposition to immigration.
Distance is not the whole answer. Two organisations can sit the same distance apart for entirely different reasons, and the reason is the content of any claim about them. Open the comparison in the atlas to weight the axes yourself.
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