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US Democratic Socialism and Juche
Measured distance across six axes
Opposite ends of the recorded space. They agree within three points on CH. They diverge by eight points or more on CU, AU, ID.
Axis by axis
| Axis | DSA, Sanders wing | Kimilsungism | Gap | Reading | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| EC · Economic organisation | −06 | −10 | 4 | Differs | Real difference, but not the dividing line. |
| CU · Social and cultural order | −08 | +09 | 17 | Diverges | Carries the disagreement. Any claim that these two are alike has to explain this. |
| AU · Organisation of power | −04 | +10 | 14 | Diverges | Carries the disagreement. Any claim that these two are alike has to explain this. |
| SC · Scale of decision | +03 | +10 | 7 | Differs | Real difference, but not the dividing line. |
| ID · Rule of membership | −08 | +10 | 18 | Diverges | Carries the disagreement. Any claim that these two are alike has to explain this. |
| CH · Method and tempo | −04 | −02 | 2 | Agrees | Effectively the same position. Not what an argument between them is about. |
Each axis runs from −10 to +10; the distance is the straight-line separation across all six at once, out of a maximum of 49.0. How the scoring works →
The evidence behind the widest gaps
A distance figure is worth nothing unless the scores behind it can be checked. These are the artefacts supporting the axes that separate these two most.
DSA, Sanders wing · CU −08
Coded −8: the movement's cultural positions are as central to it as its economics.
- Programme textProgramme commitments on reproductive rights, trans health care, decarceration and immigration are foundational.
Kimilsungism · CU +09
At the traditional pole: a hereditary leader cult and a hierarchical social order with no autonomous association.
- Programme textThe Ten Principles for the Establishment of the One-Ideology System govern private conduct including speech within families.
DSA, Sanders wing · AU −04
Coded −4: strongly pro-democratisation of existing institutions rather than concentration.
- Programme textCommitments to abolish the electoral college, expand voting rights and end the filibuster.
Kimilsungism · AU +10
At the ceiling with hereditary succession, which no other communist state institutionalised.
- Documented act or statuteThree hereditary successions since 1948.
- Documented act or statuteThe songbun system assigns life chances by inherited political classification.
What this comparison does not establish
Proximity means similarity of stated position. It carries no claim about competence, circumstance, scale of operation, or what either organisation actually did to the people under it. Two organisations can sit close together and produce entirely different histories, because those things are not on any axis and could not be.
US Democratic Socialism
1982– · United States
Universal public provision funded by taxing concentrated wealth, achieved entirely through elections and unions.
Juche
1955– · North Korea
National self-reliance under a hereditary leader treated as the source of all social life; military-first priority.
Distance is not the whole answer. Two organisations can sit the same distance apart for entirely different reasons, and the reason is the content of any claim about them. Open the comparison in the atlas to weight the axes yourself.
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