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Bukelismo and Orbánism
Measured distance across six axes
Effectively the same position. They agree within three points on EC, CU, AU, SC, CH. No axis separates them by eight points or more.
Axis by axis
| Axis | Nuevas Ideas | Fidesz | Gap | Reading | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| EC · Economic organisation | +05 | +04 | 1 | Agrees | Effectively the same position. Not what an argument between them is about. |
| CU · Social and cultural order | +06 | +08 | 2 | Agrees | Effectively the same position. Not what an argument between them is about. |
| AU · Organisation of power | +08 | +07 | 1 | Agrees | Effectively the same position. Not what an argument between them is about. |
| SC · Scale of decision | +06 | +06 | 0 | Agrees | Effectively the same position. Not what an argument between them is about. |
| ID · Rule of membership | +03 | +07 | 4 | Differs | Real difference, but not the dividing line. |
| CH · Method and tempo | +02 | −01 | 3 | Agrees | Effectively the same position. Not what an argument between them is about. |
Each axis runs from −10 to +10; the distance is the straight-line separation across all six at once, out of a maximum of 49.0. How the scoring works →
The evidence behind the widest gaps
A distance figure is worth nothing unless the scores behind it can be checked. These are the artefacts supporting the axes that separate these two most.
Nuevas Ideas · ID +03
Coded mildly positive: membership defined by conduct rather than ancestry, with mass exclusion by suspicion.
- Documented act or statuteAround 2% of the adult population has been detained under the state of exception, largely without individualised charge.
Fidesz · ID +07
Coded +7 on migration and on the ancestral definition of the nation.
- Documented act or statuteCitizenship was extended to ethnic Hungarians abroad in 2010, with voting rights; the 2015 border fence and asylum restrictions followed.
What this comparison does not establish
Proximity means similarity of stated position. It carries no claim about competence, circumstance, scale of operation, or what either organisation actually did to the people under it. Two organisations can sit close together and produce entirely different histories, because those things are not on any axis and could not be.
Bukelismo
2019– · El Salvador
Mass incarceration of suspected gang members under a permanent state of exception, sold as the trade of civil liberties for physical safety.
Orbánism
2010– · Hungary
Explicitly 'illiberal democracy': majority rule unconstrained by liberal checks, Christian national identity, opposition to immigration.
Distance is not the whole answer. Two organisations can sit the same distance apart for entirely different reasons, and the reason is the content of any claim about them. Open the comparison in the atlas to weight the axes yourself.
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